HERE ARE A FEW
REVIEWS FROM SOME WHO'VE USED REVERBNATIONS
RADIO" A.K.A. 'Crowd Review'
and fellow musicians.
I have had an intolerable time with the pirates at reverbnation
and since they are unwilling to respond to me or address the
problem I want to make sure everyone who might need to know,
knows what liars and ripoff artists they are.
IS THEIR SCAM:
They offer you a free service.
Hidden in the terms and conditions is a signup for another
(paid) service - the free service is not free at all. Any
ethical business says 'get this when you do this' right upfront.
When you discover this and try to cancel, they 'lose' your
cancellation and bill you again.
When you complain to them their support staff sends you a
form letter which clearly indicates that no one read your
message or cares about your issue.
The idea is that you will give up fighting them and they will
keep your money.
"Reverbnations Big secret"
but the fact Reverb puts out a level at 7 out of 10 to get
on the front page and the CEO says that this is 95% accurate
is not true. There is more like 40% is bogus if you pay the
larger amount like any statistic it will get more real, but
because they pay these people contradicts the unbiased view
and then people review with absolute garbage, unrelated or
just plain mean spirited. The Number one music site has reviews
I don't pay for except for my membership and the reviews for
the most part are fair and even keeled. I just feel my $20
would've been spent better. I would be willing to pay more
if the people reviewing were legitimate reviewer that would
get paid, but are educated through schooling or experience
and the money would be just a service fee. It should be at
least where artists critique artists, part of the checks and
balances. Besides it busts me up that I get a 6.4 or 6.5 and
the bogus reviews I know knocked down my higher score from
being a contender.
Just an observation
though, the 200 for $99.95 and the 50 for $19.95??? Uh if
I did the math I can get 4 silver reviews for less than one
gold review. No value added reasoning for the extra price.
I know that a person gets to see the reviewers scores at one
point and a first name of the reviewer.
give it to Mike the reverb rep for commenting back and shutting
down discussions on the words Crowd Review Rip-Off.
over-site the reviews to ensure quality. This for the money
is a rip-off since Mike admitted that he's had problems with
ignorant reviews, yet they don nothing, but charge a lot of
money for little to no effort except use sound out service
to get reviews however they come and then make you a PDF and
give you the bad news. Original is not good for everyone and
Reverb should look into a better site that is targeted better
toward original music reviews. Don't waste your money it is
pure luck if you get a 7 or better no matter how good you
R (Official ReverbNation Rep) RESPONSE:
your feedback here, this service isn't for everybody and I
understand your opinion about it. Regardless we appreciate
that you gave it a try. Please don't take offense to the closure
of threads. You can understand that there is only a couple
of us who moderate these boards and we have a relatively small
support staff. We also don't have the manpower to check every
Crowd Review or provide our own quality control, but I am
happy to pass your comments and your feedback to our developers
and our marketing team who collaborate with the SoundOut representatives.
THEIR ENTIRE CONVERSATION HERE
and How ReverbNation Lost My Love
There was a
time when I used ReverbNation daily to connect with fans,
promote my music, and grow my network. Things were great.
But then things started changing and I began using the platform
less and less. I used to be an advocate for their services
and now I find myself telling people not to bother.
Selling Pipe Dreams
As a newspaper Review columnist and Indie Artist I strongly
recommend that you not involve yourself in any
ReverbNation Promotions or the like. I already made that mistake
and it cost me over $175.00
Read their promotion below and then I'll explain how misleading
the offer and as many others are.
scam tutorial promotional tip
The only thing
they try to increase is how to make money out of you - then
reverbnation skim the internet and hack to takedown forums
that describe what they do and put negative feedback on their
competitors - be very careful of reverbnation scam rip off
band song plays increaser
I can describe
the results in one word: brutal. None of the songs are deemed
worthy of being album tracks, much less singles. In the most
important metric, Market Potential, my best song received
a 54%, my worst 39%, and my favorite a pathetic 20%. Those
numbers stand in stark contrast to my stats at Jango, for
reasons I’ll explain in a bit. READ
your money on Reverbnation
Its not often
I write something off-topic for the website, but in this case
I think its something that’s likely to be of interest to music
fans in general. Most people who either follow local bands
such as us, or people who play in bands themselves will be
familiar with the concept of Pay-To-Play gigs, and especially
the notion that This Is Not A Good Thing. Pay-to-Play gives
bands a great opportunity to part with money in order to play
a gig, as opposed to being paid for your performance, and
is appreciated by bands in much the same way as my plumber
appreciated my proposal that he pay me for the opportunity
to fix my washing machine. This aside, what I really wanted
to talk about was a very similar way of wasting a band’s money
which is called... READ
charts are a joke. Look at the top ten artists in most areas,
and these are usually complete no-names, that are just good
at spamming people... the same types of bands that had tons
of "friends" on myspace by using friendblaster,
but no one has heard of them. ReverbNation tries to get you
to buy add-on products to improve your "chart position"...
it is all a setup to get you to spend money to be "#1",
even though that chart position is completely useless and
scammed by Reverb Nation
Some of you
might know a website called Reverb Nation, it's popular among
indie musicians, it basically acts like a MySpace for musos...
well I just got charged $35 and going to enormous lengths
to get my money back, but they won't respond, so I'm asking
for some advice. The situation - I registered my music profile
on Reverb Nation. Soon after, it asks me if I want to register
for a 3-day free trial of a promotional campaign to help get
more listeners/fans. The idea is if you don't cancel within
those 3 days, they'll charge you the subscription fee. So...
I try it out, and it does sh*t all, so I cancel it on March
05 (payment due on March 06). So what happens? I get charged
$35 on March 06... for a service that I cancelled out of and
even have an email receipt with a confirmation code that proves
that I cancelled out. READ
figured out that Reverbnation is a bit of a scam.
after a year
and a few months, I have figured out that Reverbnation is
a bit of a scam. The fee listed here is wrong because its
almost double that amount or 60 bucks annually…however, they
not only charge a $50 take down (making your so called one
time payment, 50 dollars more than that initial amount spent),
there are also fees taken for every transfer of money to your
paypal account. Therefore, no matter what at Reverbation,
you are spending $110 to set and take down each release. Its
not reflected in any of the sign up document and they added
it on to the FAQ a few months after I initially signed up…But
I was not happy with that system. Forget about the fees, they
hardly got our product anywhere that cant be done at any other
aggregator and/or distributor. They have great marketing tools
but this where and how they scam money from artists. Which
sucks because obviously as a young artist, trying to grow
in this industry, every penny counts. And, its hard to read
thousands of lines of fine print like they have in their FAQ
section. The fees they take are very easy to overlook even
now…I was honestly shocked a company with so much going them,
acts that way towards young bands….as if its not hard enough
to break into the marketplace, you have look over your shoulders
at your own partner because Reverbnation is not at all forthcoming
about these fees….not even remotely…they hide it….and that
sucks because I could have gone to every other company, that
would and does not act this way towards artists. Most companies
do not take advantage of young artists, but this company is
a nightmare with regard to digital distribution. I am telling
you its a nightmare to deal with their digital services. Its
very hard. Let alone you will not get paid on time. Its now
8/11 and I have had money due to me since 8/5. And, they refuse
to deal and/or answer to it. Its very hard…and I know they
are scheming some way to keep that money…which is incredible
to do to young artists in this industry today…. READ
- Hosting of copyrighted content
I found copyrighted
material hosted on Reverbnation.com and asked their customer
support to get that material removed but they refused. I proved
that those materials belong to me and that they have no right
to host those materials without my consent but it didn’t do
any good. Will probably have to sue them because such behaviour
can’t be tolerated.
Should Know About SoundOut aka "Reverbnation"
has a new feature called Crowd Review, which is “powered by”
SoundOut. Based on recent reader comments (below), it appears
to be identical. If that’s not the case, please let us know!
scam of certain licensing sites
that tune they heard on Myspace, Facebook, Reverbnation that
they sent you a message about most times is a spam message.
Yet, people get so excited. These are trolls the bulk of the
time trying to get you in to something to sign up with, pay
in to or by the chance they actually went to check you out,
they will try to hit you with a contract so those songs can
be theirs or at least the rights to them.
Promote It Free Trial and Reverb's RPK Free Trial Legit or
Crock of crap.
it be like giving me your credit card info. i would just delete
it. and be safe.
remember if its too good to be true it isnt. and this time
of yr the spammers and hackers are out in full force taking
advantage of everyone young and old. dont fall for it. plus
most free trials you never need a credit card. READ
JJ Rocks article
# 285: ReverbNation scam revealed!
Hi! As many
of you know I support independent bands and scout for major
label executives like the ones in my RN photo section. So
I am writing to tell you that Reverbnation finally admitted
to me that people who buy their “tools” and use them are the
ones that get higher rank on their site. This came after I
complained about being knocked off the #1 national position
in all genres in the Virgin Islands by someone with much lower
stats. Now the only reason that I even care about rank on
that site is that I occasionally invite people to my scouting
site to be heard and possibly referred to a major label for
free. So I want them to get a good impression. But I know
that most of you use RN to promote your music and think that
your chart position is based on the quality of your music.
It’s NOT! Many of you are proud of your chart position. But
why? No one is really judging your music on the RN staff nor
can your friends rank your tunes there. So the people above
you on the charts are there because they buy these so called
“tools” from the site and it gives them a higher rank. Here
is just part of what Reverbnation sent me back when I told
them that someone with much lower stats took over my position
on the charts.
A warning to
everyone using Reverbnation
Before I continue,
I must stress that usually I adore Reverbnation and all of
their wonderful tools and tips. Unfortunately the issue I’m
about to describe has soured our relationship. I went to send
out the monthly newsletter on Sunday. Usually I have most
people set up on a Gmail filter and I work from that, but
some of my fans come from Reverbnation and have signed up
through FanReach. So for them, I do a copy of the newsletter
and send it out using the FanReach tool, as when people signup,
I don’t get access to their email address. April’s newsletter
was fine going out this way, but on May’s, I got a pop-up
screen telling me that I have to add my ACTUAL PHYSICAL ADDRESS
at the bottom. So I do this, imagining that it will be hidden
on the final email. It’s not.
Report on 08/20/2012 09:35 AM
were truly disappointed with our experience with this company,
not really because of the fishy results, but because of the
extremely unprofessional nature of the entire event. My band
has truly taken this event as a lesson learned: Any event
worth participating in won't require you to give them money
to play - choose where you play very wisely. Do not be fooled
by King Ryan Events or Ishowcase .... Keep on rock and rollin'
and play for people who will appreciate you and give you and
your friends and family the treatment you deserve as hard
working performers. READ
What I wanted
to report as damages was:
extended and credit for charges of services not requested.
However this wouldn't go through.. so I realized I had to
give a monetary amount. $100 is for 4 $25 charges and $20
is for a pro-rated amount of the membership I've lost since
they locked my account.
(a Promotion Company for musicians, singer-songwriters) was
offering a week free to promote a song, I decided to promote
a Christmas song that had a special messsage. I sent them
an email the day I saw the promotion (Nov.1st), stating that
I wanted the promotion to start on Nov. 15th and end in mid
Dec. With the free week, that would have cost me $75, which
is what I'd budgeted for this song. The same day I became
a member of Revernation for $59.95. Soon after they sent me
an email, stating they'd charged my credit card for $25. I
wrote them right away that it was to start on November 15th,
and why wasn't the first week free as advertised. I got a
form-type email back that if I wanted to cancel my subscription
I'd need to do it online, that they couldn't cancel it for